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Info-Hams Digest            Tue,  7 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  640

Today's Topics:
                           "73's" (4 msgs)
                           (none) (2 msgs)
                      [FWD] CQ Univ. of Maryland
              Converting "Pocket Tone Dialer" to 16 keys
                        DUAL BAND RADIO 4SALE
                      HAM in Singapore (2 msgs)
                      Info-Hams Digest V94 #639
                        KENWOOD TH-28/78A etc
                      Legal Protections for Hams
                     List of U.S. counties wanted
                     PLANS FOR BUILDING A QUAD..
                Reality check (was Re: Ham Radio few p
                      RFD:Radio repair rip-off??
                         Singapore HAM Laws?
                             YAESU TS-50S

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Date: 7 Jun 94 17:26:22 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

Text item: Text_1

Hey Will, drag out your dictionary and you will find that an apostrophe
is also used to indicate plurals of items like 73. Here's the quote,
(caps are mine) "apostrophe - ...a mark ' used to indicate... the PLURAL
of letters or figures" ...

73, KG7BK, [e-mail]

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 15:14:45 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

In article <2t076r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore -FT-~) writes:
|> From my Webster's, "apostrophe - ... the possessive case, OR THE _PLURAL_
|> of letters or figures".

Webster actually lists it as a plural?  May I ask what edition you are
looking in?

It's probably another case of the formal rules of the English language
have now changed.  I know I've seen it written many times in many places,
and said by many people who would know--namely those who have spent
the better part of their life studying the English language (I don't
knowwhy they'd do that...)--that it should *never* be used as a plural.
Thus 1990's is a possesive of a single year, and 1990s means the entire
decade.
--
Will Turner,  N0RDV         ---------------------------------------------
[e-mail]        | "Are you going to have any professionalism, |
[e-mail]    | or am I going to have to beat it into you?" |
[e-mail]    ---------------------------------------------

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 18:15:51 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Cecil A Moore) writes:
|> Hey Will, drag out your dictionary and you will find that an apostrophe
|> is also used to indicate plurals of items like 73. Here's the quote,
|> (caps are mine) "apostrophe - ...a mark ' used to indicate... the PLURAL
|> of letters or figures" ...

As I said before, WHICH EDITION?  We could have different editions.

Besides, just because it is in under the definition of the word soes
*not* mean it is an appropritate usage of an appostraphe.  Every style
handbook I have every seen--and they are the ones to tell you how to use
an apostrophe, not the dictionary--says it is not to be used that way.
Many also note than many people do use it for plurals, but this is not
correct.

I will not argue with what your dictionary says, but I still maintain
that it is not correct, and that the dictionary is not the place to
look, anyway.
--
Will Turner,  N0RDV         ---------------------------------------------
[e-mail]        | "Are you going to have any professionalism, |
[e-mail]    | or am I going to have to beat it into you?" |
[e-mail]    ---------------------------------------------

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 18:37:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews![e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

Weuchsowagan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Webster actually lists it as a plural?  May I ask what edition you are
: looking in? ... it should *never* be used as a plural.
: Will Turner,  N0RDV

Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (c) 1983

e.g. How many A's in the word alphabet? ... A's is the plural of A.
As is a word. As is not the plural of A. 73's is the plural of 73.

Will, did you bother to look in a dictionary before responding?

73, KG7BK, [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:29:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: (none)
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William Brydges) writes:
>HELP
>
Is this your way of asking us to stop by and shut the B+ off on the linear that
you were working on?

:-)

Greg

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Date: 7 Jun 94 22:39:52 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (none)
To: [e-mail]

INDEX
HELP

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 15:01:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!tintin.cc.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: [FWD] CQ Univ. of Maryland
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>              UMD has a club station I do believe, but
>I dont recall its callsign.

W3EAX.  Here's the URL for their WWW home page:

     http://w3eax.umd.edu/w3eax.html

                        --Fuat
Columbia University                             [e-mail]
703 Watson Labs                                 212-854-4804
612 W115th Street                               212-662-6442 (Fax)
New York, NY 10025                              N2YGN

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Date: 7 Jun 94 22:53:01 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!psgrain!news.tek.com!tekig7![e-mail]
Subject: Converting "Pocket Tone Dialer" to 16 keys
To: [e-mail]

I've got a Radio Shack "Pocket Tone Dialer".  Of course, it
only has 12 keys.  Has anyone converted one to generate all
16 DTMF tones?  I'd like to add a "shift" button, that, when
held down, would cause the third column of keys (3/6/9/#) to
generate the column 4 tones (A/B/C/D).

The one IC is labelled "UM9559E 9227G 423710", if that helps
any.  I haven't found any of those numbers in any of my data
books, but them I'm mostly a software guy.

Thanks,
Mike
--
Michael A. Gauland    [e-mail]
AA7JF            [phone]

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Date: 7 Jun 94 15:43:12 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!cg57.esnet.com!bbs.dsnet.com![e-mail]
Subject: DUAL BAND RADIO 4SALE
To: [e-mail]

                             ********************

                             *DUAL BAND HT 4SALE*

                             ********************



        Have 1 DJ-580T, ALINCO RADIO 4$ALE, w/ ACCESSORIES. This is a
nice

        little HT, I have one of my own. The HT is barely 1 Month old and

        like NEW.

        If you buy NEW(with NO ACCESSORIES) it'll cost you just under
$420,

        depending on where you live and what ur sales tax is.



        Selling this radio for $335.00 + Shipping with a few accessories:



        * MICROPHONE

        * PLUG IN LIGHTER ADAPTER

        * RADIO CASE



        If intersted, let me know... ASAP...



        73 - Dave!

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:40:48 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: HAM in Singapore
To: [e-mail]

In article <2t1ccj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Derek Wills) writes:
>
>   I am still trying to find out why people call amateur radio
>   "HAM" - the above poster has had a license since 1992, and
>   still calls it HAM (not even HAM radio).  Where does this come
>   from? - somebody must know.   And don't give me all that stuff
>   about Home Amateur Mechanics or whatever.  I'm not asking why
>   radio amateurs are called hams, I want to know why amateur radio
>   is called simply HAM.   I've only heard it in the last few years.

It's an acronym, you see, so it is capitalized.
Holdouts to Amplitude Modulation.
--scott
    pick up a nice Viking and see you on 40M....
--
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 17:41:09 GMT
From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: HAM in Singapore
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Derek Wills) writes:
-->A licensed US radio amateur who had better remain anonymous asks:
-->
-->>I'm in Singapore right now. And I was wondering, the next time I'm
-->>here, should I bring my radio? What are the laws regarding 2m and

some stuff deleted

-->   about Home Amateur Mechanics or whatever.  I'm not asking why
-->   radio amateurs are called hams, I want to know why amateur radio
-->   is called simply HAM.   I've only heard it in the last few years.
-->
-->   What gives?   Somebody, please???
-->
-->
-->Grumpily,
-->
-->Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
-->Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
-->Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
-->[e-mail]


He should get 12 lashes from a bamboo cane for calling Amateur Radio "ham".

---
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Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
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Date: 7 Jun 94 17:29:10 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #639
To: [e-mail]

>Has anyone had RFI problems to
>the computerized components in this vehicle, or in the 944 ('87-88 924
>has 944 engine ) ??

In the immortal words of one Janis Joplin:

"All my friends drive Porsches.
 Oh, Lord won't you buy me a
 Mercedes Benz."

73 de K2WK

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Date: Tue,  7 Jun 1994 11:54:55 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato!comp.vuw.ac.nz!welcom![e-mail]
Subject: KENWOOD TH-28/78A etc
To: [e-mail]

Many thanks to the replies re. undoumented features of these sets. I'm
half expecting them to bring out a Windows version next ! ZL2AJZ
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Date: 7 Jun 1994 19:07:24 GMT
From: parc!xerox![e-mail]
Subject: Legal Protections for Hams
To: [e-mail]

> On a VERRRRRY loosly related subject, how about eliminating the
> "industrial exemption" clause in your state's engineering registration law?
> These exemptions, which most if not all states have, allow unlicensed
> "engineers (who may not even have any engineering education or experience)
> to practice as engineers as long as they only design manufactured goods. Would
> you allow an unlicensed physician, who can only kill one person at a time to
> practice medicine?  How abount an unlicensed automtive "engineer" who could
> kill many people with a single mistake?

In my opinion the comparison does not hold.  An engineer works typically for
a company and they can interview and test the engineer before hiring them.
A physician works with individual patients.  An individial patient does
rarely have the skills or the time to interview a physician wether he knows
any medicine or not.

Christian   KD6WYC


Oh BTW.  If you get elected, don't worry too much about special ham issues.  Just
make this place a little better for everybody living here...

Oops, please make the FCC more efficient.  I don't have any gripe with whom gets a
license and who doesn't, but why does this require 8 weeks handling?

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Date: 7 Jun 94 16:07:59 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: List of U.S. counties wanted
To: [e-mail]

Hi,

I am looking for a machine readable list of all 3000 or so
U.S. counties.  I would like to keep track of contacts on the
computer.  If you have such a list and could send me a copy
I would appreciate it.  If there is a ftp site that I can go
to to get the list that would be good too,

Thanks.

David DeLano
WA6TIM
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:55:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!news.Vanderbilt.Edu![e-mail]
Subject: PLANS FOR BUILDING A QUAD..
To: [e-mail]

Subject:  Re: Plans for Building a Quad

Anibal,
   Get Bill Orr's quad book.  You'll need it to do a good job.  Quads do provide
more gain than yagis but only 2db or so.  That's not a lot difference.  The
problem with quads is that they are mechanically weak.  Get any ice, wind, or
just age and you'll have to restring the quad (often).  The yagi is a better
performer year after year!!
                                     Good DX,
                                        K5WIM

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 13:45:41 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Reality check (was Re: Ham Radio few p
To: [e-mail]

Can you folks please take this argument elsewhere, such as .policy or
even email?  Yes, I know how to kill subjects, but it still fills up my
news server disk, causes delays when I start up and the subject line keeps
changing!!!!

--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Tom Bodoh - Section Manager, Systems Engineering and Management, Hughes STX +
+ USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA    57198     [phone]      +
+ Internet; [e-mail] (152.61.192.66)   Amateur radio call; N0YGT +
+    "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P          +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 13:20:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!dolphin![e-mail]
Subject: RFD:Radio repair rip-off??
To: [e-mail]

AL N1AL said:

>The owner got all his business by going through the paperwork to qualify
>as an authorized warrantee repair center for just about every consumer
>electronics vendor known to man.  You see, that way he don't have to
>depend on repeat customers to stay in business.

A place I worked at for a few months tried this route once they
got a tech who knew what he was doing...Me... but he had such a bad
rep already from being an independent NO_CLASS electronics hacker that
RCA,ZENITH,SAMSUNG,PANA,SONY... turned him down!  He did get Emerson, Funai,
Goldstar, NAP (Sylvania/Philco) to take him on, and I know he forged warranty
claims to NAP every 2-3 days.  I am sure he lost NAP before or after I sent
the dogs from PA Wage & Hour to collect my back pay & O.T.

NOT EVERY SHOP IS A CROOK, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE DO IT WITH GUSTO!

    Ed Bathgate
    Senior Test Tech
    [e-mail]

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Date: 7 Jun 94 19:43:13 GMT
From: wang![e-mail]
Subject: Singapore HAM Laws?
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Nick Stefanisko) writes:

>Newbee alert!! This is my first time posting here.

>I'm in Singapore right now. And I was wondering, the next time I'm
>here, should I bring my radio? What are the laws regarding 2m and
>70cm transition here. I've talked to a bunch of people here in
>Singapore and they have no clue. I think there is a well established
>radio-phone network here, so I would not be surprised to find out that
>HAM is not allowed.

>I just want to find out before I have to find out the hard way.

Singapore has harsh penalties for causing QRM outside the band.
Although the laws are arcane, you need to be sure to lash down any
stray oscillations so that they are whipped.  Save yourself a lot of
pain, and don't get a scar on your HAM.  These laws apply whether you
use the Mike or if you use a straight cane.

73,
Dave, KZ1O

p.s.  You should contact the ARRL about reciprocal operation - they
have an information packet dealing this.  Many of the folks from the
League regularly lurk here.

--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.

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Date: Tue,  7 Jun 1994 11:56:54 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato!comp.vuw.ac.nz!welcom![e-mail]
Subject: YAESU TS-50S
To: [e-mail]

Many thanks to all those who replied re "how you found it" on this set.
We will probably go for a traditional station set now after all. ZL2AJZ
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Date: 7 Jun 1994 13:50:17 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!wizard.uark.edu!comp![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2stcs6$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2svtr6$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: ** WAITING PERIOD FOR LICENSE ?? **

[e-mail] (Vassili Leonov) writes:

>for speeding things up to say resonable 4 weeks maximum? Why you can get
>your drivers license in 10 minutes - and wait for a plasitc copy for
>4 months after that - no problems. Give a pools of callsignes to VECs -

What state do you live in?  In Arkansas, it takes 10 minutes to get the
plastic photo-license - after the requisite 45-60 minute wait in line of
course. :-)

BTW, e-filing is the only way to go - anyone who bitches at the ARRL for
opposing the instant license hog wash deserves to be sentenced to spend
180 days on 11m -- or worse: 20m!!


Peter Laws <[e-mail]>  |"Let's make sure history never forgets the
n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam    | name ... Enterprise"   ST:TNG - 1987-1994

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Date: 7 Jun 1994 22:31:06 GMT
From: nothing.ucsd.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2si4ff$[e-mail]>, <2sid20$[e-mail]>, <2sn2im$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

None of the closed repeater systems I belong to demand dues.  When
something breaks, or needs upgrading, we all pitch in and buy the thing,
or build it, or install it, or drive up the hill, or buy the beer,
or climb the tower, or whatever.

It's not a money thing, it's a cooperative thing.  The systems are closed
because there are people we don't want using the equipment - HF transceiver,
remote TV camera, control/configuration for the other (open!) systems in the
building, whatever.  We probably don't want to listen to them either.

We're currently experimenting with spread-spectrum, digitized speech,
high-speed data, and other such modes.  Are these to be prohibited
because the pocket-rockets these appliance operators own can't do them?
Or is it only the facilities they can use that they want to co-opt?
    - Brian

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